Garvey Campbell reached out to Antiguan Soca artist Tizzy, See what she has to say about working with Roy Cape in Trinidad, performing in other countries, her views on the Soca Music as an Industry and why she loves what she does!
While I wait for Tizzy's image to appear on screen, a thrill of excitement begins to run through me as I consider the fact that I'm about to have a one-on-one conversation with someone I have only ever seen on Stage, and has been a valuable peice of my past and present Carnival and experiences in Soca Fete's here and overseas.
The fact that Tizzy is a star in her own right is undeniable. Her work rate is to be admired and her performance leaves no doubt about her, passion, energy and drive to deliver 110 Percent effort at each and every show. As Tizzy's image appears on my screen my nervousness fades, she greets me with a genuine smile, says "hello" and as the last of my uneasiness ebs away, our interview begins.......
Garvey: Hi Tizzy for the benefit of our followers that are new to Soca can you introduce yourself and tell us how you got into Soca and how you found your band EL A Kru?
Tizzy: I've actually been in entertainment with El A Kru for a little over 17 years but I've been in the field of entertainment since before that. My Father was a Guitarist and my Mother was a dancer so entertainment and music was in my blood, it s something I've grown up around. I grew up going to Band rehearsals going to see my Father perform at different venues around Antigua when he was with the Antiguan Reggae band Wadadli Experience So I got my first taste of the Music and Entertainment scene from there. I used to listen to all types of music because I'm a lover of all forms of music, once it sounds good and makes me feel good I enjoy it thoroughly.
Garvey: So when did you find your way into performing Soca?
Tizzy: That was in 1996, I was still in School at the time And I was doing Background vocals for a Calypso Tent at the time Called Zachary's Cream of the Crop Calypso Tent. I Started doing Background Vocals with a group of school friends for one of the entertainers, while there I ended up doing background vocals for the entire Camp.
Garvey: Wow that's quite a smooth transition, so can you tell us how you found your Band El A Kru?
Tizzy: I met the guys from El A Kru at one of the Calypso Tent Events, in summer of 1997 after seeing me perform and approaching me they realized that I was still in school, so they told me when I finish School we can look at doing some work together. it was during the 1998 Antigua Carnival season they asked me if I'd finished school and I said "Yes!".
They gave me a CD and told me Learn the Background Vocals and that was a couple of days during the week before Carnival Monday and Tuesday. On Carnival Monday they asked me if I'd taken then time to learn the Background vocals and again I said "Yes!" so they said come back and perform with us on Tuesday and that was my first time Singing Soca Music on the road during Carnival and things took off from there.
Garvey: Was your first time a Good experience? Did you enjoy it as your first time performing Soca during a full-blown Carnival?
Tizzy: It was a tough experience and a very new experience, I had a week to learn the words so I was kind of thrown into it all at once! <Laughs>.
Garvey: <Laughs> What made it tough?
Tizzy: Because I'd never done any kind of energetic Singing like that for that length of time, because in Antigua we tend to prefer Power Soca so when your on the road for Carnival your singing Power Soca Repeatedly, Non-Stop with no Breaks, and this was Carnival Tuesday! I hadn't been to a Class or had a Singing instructor so this was kind of like my Crash-Course because I hadn't been Travelling with them or performing with them prior to that to warm me up for that experience.
But it turned out alright because I was singing background vocals and I accepted the challenge, the guys said "You work very well, your very good at Harmonies, you learn very quickly" It was a natural process, but at the time I was still only doing Background Vocals. The Opportunity came up in 1999 once El a Kru had the Hit "Lethal Batty" they went off to Trinidad.
Garvey: YES! That tune was a Big tune!
Tizzy: <Laughs> We went off to Trinidad carnival 1999 and I went with them doing Background Vocals and after the first two performances a fellow Soca-Artist came to us and he said:
“Listen...This is the time when Female Soca artists were starting to take-over, there was Alison Hinds, you have Sanelle Dempster you had Destra all of the Females were now coming out with really strong sounds and really hot new songs and it makes no sense for you to have a Female in the Band and she' s only doing Background vocals”.
So Again I was thrown into it again! Without ANY preparation <Laughs> I was just thrown into it, so there I was after learning all the Background Vocals for all the songs for the entire performances starting with a season where we had what?........maybe only twelve shows?..........We ended up with about 30 shows that year! <Laughs> And I went from doing backgrounds only, to now doing Backgrounds and performing about two or three lead songs that were popular that year, and from there I've just grown from Strength to Strength!
This was from making the transition from Calypso into Soca, then from doing background to doing lead vocals not just being able to perform it on stage, but now I have start recording it, and I had never recorded anything before either. So everything was coming at me at once.
Garvey: Wow! And I've seen what a lot of Soca artists have to go through in order to promote themselves and get themselves out there. The first few times I flew home to Trinidad Carnival regularly they would be playing or performing at maybe 2 or 3 events in one night, travelling from one end of the Island to the other.
Tizzy: Well in Antigua it's gotten <Pause>.............well we're not quite as big as Trinidad and over the years our Fete-ing scene has grown so although we don t have quite as many shows as they have in Trinidad it's just as fast-paced once the Carnival Season starts in Antigua, and we are coming from the days when a live-band would be on the stage for three hours, and you'd leave from one show to go to the next show to perform for another three hours again!
Thankfully we don't do too many of the three hour performances now <Laughs> now it's been cut down to maybe 45 Minutes, 30 Minutes or an Hour and-a-half so we've grown as a Band, we've grown as an industry, where the Soca music is concerned in Antigua and Barbuda (Antigua's Sister Island) and now I'm just ready for Trinidad Carnival!
Garvey: Well you know your set to have a Good time over there!
Tizzy: Well like I said I've done Trinidad Carnival with El A Kru back in 1999 with the Lethal Batty album, after that I did a Tour here in Trinidad with Destra Garcia with over 30 shows, that was during the Carnival in 2008. That was when we came out with the tune "Expose" and Expose really broke out that year.
Garvey: Oh yes! I was in Trinidad that year!.........So I've been to Antigua's Carnival on 3 Occassions and one of the things I loved about Antigua is that they have a distinct fondness for the live bands.
Garvey: And I can remember staying with friends on the Island and when I asked them who they were playing Mas with they all Said "Dynamics!"............So I asked whose playing the music?..........whose the DJ?
Tizzy: The DJ? <Starts Laughing>.
Garvey: <Laughs> They said "we've got Red Hot Flames playing on the Truck" (Red Hot Flames is a well known Live Band from Antigua) so I was thinking one Band??? And that's it??? Obviously I was ignorant and when you hear the words Live Band and you think of Carnival if you've never done it before there's a chance that you get the wrong idea.
I think this affects a lot of people who don't get the opportunity to experience a live band, or are afraid of maybe trying something new or different during Carnival, you end up having no idea of what it like or any reference point for how much fun it can be or how crazy it can get or what a live Band can bring to an event or a Carnival.
Tizzy: Right! So what happens in Antigua is often not the same thing that happens in Trinidad or Grenada or St Vincent, St Lucia or Barbados we all bring Soca Music but the industry itself shapes itself differently depending upon what Island your in.
Garvey: Yes that's right. So my friends in Antigua recommended that I might enjoy playing Mas with a Band called Myst, they were very new at the time and they had a DJ on the truck so my friends said "you can play with Myst but all of us are jumping with Dynamics, we can arrange for you to Play with Myst, they have a DJ on the truck and they play music from other Islands, but we'll over there with Dynamics!".
Garvey: So that very night they took me to the Lions Den.
(For the benefit of our readers The Lions Den is a well-known, and big party that takes place in Antigua and they have Red hot Flames playing there non-stop several nights on the run-up to the Antiguan Carnival from Dusk till Sun rise, and then they would play live on the truck for Dynamics Mas Band for two final days of Carnival).
Tizzy: <Laughs louder> That's a different kind of thing!
Garvey: It…..Blew….me……..away!.....I signed up for Dynamics the very next day I was like <Clicks Fingers> "Get me involved!".
Tizzy: Yes! <Laughs>.
Garvey: So I suppose the reason why I'm telling you that story is because I'd like to get your opinion on live bands in the Soca Scene at the moment, personally I thoroughly enjoy a Live Band Performance especially when it's Soca, what I've been observing, and correct me if I'm wrong but that seems to be reducing over time and Dominica for example has a very strong presence on the Road for Live Music and you still have Live Bands who are doing their thing on the various islands but I'd really like to see how you perceive which direction, the inclusion of Live Bands in Soca and Carnival, is going.
Tizzy: Well for me and I think for most other artists if your not coming from the background of singing with tracks or performing with tracks your going to be coming from a background of performing with a live band and I always prefer to perform WITH the live band as opposed to performing with the Tracks, there's a different kind of energy and vibe when you get on stage with that live energy of each instrument and everything Gels together on stage and everything is just coming at you.
It's a different sort of energy that gets released when your on stage, it tends to give you a better flavour to your performance and delivery and interaction with the Crowd, I mean you can interact well with the crowd with a Track but it seems to....I don't know......the Energy and the Vibe is different when you do it with the Band and I much prefer it that way.
Garvey: I must agree, there is definitely a different kind of energy, I suppose with a live band there's more entertainment, more chance of you being able to Ad-lib, do what you want in the moment, get more audience participation.
Tizzy: Right Right.
Garvey: If the tune is really moving the crowd you can stretch the tune out or decrease the duration.
Tizzy: Yes there's So many things.
Garvey: It was my first experience of Antigua and it was the very first time I was on the road with a Live band and I personally would love to see a lot more of it.
Tizzy: I mean a lot of that has deteriorated because it takes a lot of effort and organisation to get an entire band on the road and for the amount of hours that you need to have the band on the road. you need to be able to pay to have them on the road and nobody wants to pay anymore, there seems to be a lack of respect for the kind of things we have to go through when your on the road.
And when I say respect I mean respect in payment, respecting the talent respecting the journey that we have to go through, those are some long hours that we have to go through to be on the road, we have to prepare the truck we have to prepare the sound system, we have to prepare generators, musician sometimes will come off the truck after playing for all those hours and the tips of their fingers are numb! You may have lost your voice at the end.
There's a lot that you go through as a Band and as an Entertainer to be on the road and I don't think the respect, as far as payment, is accorded where that is concerned.
Garvey: Ok thanks for that, that's definitely an eye-opener and I'm saying that as a true lover of Live Soca Music and Live Bands.
Garvey: So I also wanted to find out what it s like being a woman in what many people see as a very Male dominated industry, you spoke earlier about a lot of the Female artists coming through, they put in the work they have achieved great success but there are still some people who feel that there are issues with people not taking some of the Female artists seriously, is this something you have found or is this not the case in your opinion?
Tizzy: In a way yes, we have all worked really hard to be where we are now we have a lot more female entertainers in the Soca arena, what I find challenging is being able to maintain a look, a prescence, staying relevant, making sure your relevant each and every year, trying to make sure that your physically fit, making sure you have the right songs, that you have the right Sex appeal, that you have whats needed, Men have to work hard too but there is a lot more that is required from the Female to make sure that we are always on point.
Garvey: Why do you think this is?
Tizzy: I have no idea honestly <Laughs> I think it might be that, as Women, once we've taken it to a certain level, people expect to see more or they expect to get more so they're always expecting more from you.
Garvey: Ok, speaking of levels and expectation, can you name some of the highlights of your career? I mean your tune "Lethal Batty" for me is certainly one of them!
Tizzy: To me it' s very important to do music that's going to last throughout the year and throughout the generations so that if your child or your grandmother or whoever is listening can hear your music, no matter if it's fast or slow or the genre of music, it can be played and everybody can really appreciate it.
I love doing music so that when I finish music in the studio after putting the hours into it and making sure that it's right once it's out there everybody can appreciate it and that it has longevity. You can hear that same song 10 or 20 years down the line and it's still as fresh and relevant now as when it was when it first came out.
Garvey: Were there any other tunes aside from Lethal Batty that really pushed you up and put you out there as much?
Tizzy: Yes, Expose definitely did that, Lethal Batty pushed El A Kru on the market (El A Kru stands for Little Antigua by the way) But it was Expose that definitely put me on the map as an individual artist and to let everyone know about "Tizzy from Antigua", "Tizzy From El A Kru", "Tizzy Miss Expose".
I also had a chance to perform with Machel Montano in Madison Square Gardens in the United States when Expose was very big, that was in 2008, I'd also have to say all of my performances in Belgium and also of course in China. Being able to perform for crowds who are not entirely English-speaking crowds but still seeing that my work is still appreciated there and relevant to them, watching them enjoy my music. And of course my International Soca Awards, being a brand new artist out there in the realm of Destra, Fay-Ann Lyons, Nadia Batson and Machel Montano being able to have music that can stand up against those songs, those are the highlights of my career so far.
Oh yes! And the UCLA Jazz Festival, when I was able to go out there and perform for the entire campus, and these were people who were not necessarily Soca Crowds, but once the Soca came on& they definitely felt it.
Garvey: Ok so you don't have to answer this one, what's your opinion on how much Antigua supports and looks after it's artists? I'm asking because I saw a recent interview in Trinidad with King Vers from St Maarten on a Radio show and they were surprised when he told them that every weekend at a particular Fete he goes to on the island they play 100% Soca right the way through the Party, and the gentlemen on the Radio station in Trinidad were shocked, with one of them even saying I hope Trinidadians are hearing this!
And sometimes what I see is that the music that is produced on a given Island sometimes doesn't get the recognition and support it deserves from the Islands it was created in, but instead it gets lots of attention and recognition in another place because it's so new and different there.
Tizzy: First of all let me say that I thank Antigua for whatever support they give me, anyway they give it to me, I really thank them for all of their Support! But I do think that a lot more needs to be done to develop the industry to make sure that Antigua's artists have a face and a name out there so that we're not left to do it on our own.
Earlier before our interview began you were saying your not currently seeing a lot of the Soca artists from Antigua being out there as much as the Artists from Trinidad and other Islands but that's because a lot of the work that has to be done to get our music out there has to be done on our own and the individual artist has to either take sponsorship money or their own money that they have worked for in order to go and develop and promote themselves.
A system needs to be put in place to help Talented Soca artists who maybe cannot do it by themselves or help to assist the artists who can in order to push them even further.
Garvey: I totally agree, without the music we don't have a Carnival, so we've got to find ways of supporting Soca artists like yourselves in order to make sure that level of creativity is maintained and isn't stunted because of lack of care for our artists........So, on a lighter note what are you up to know? I hear your working with Roy Cape and the All-stars (Roy Cape & the All-Stars are a Legendary Trinidad Brass Band who have a long list of Soca Hits and have worked with some of the finest Soca Artists in the industry).
Tizzy: <Laughs> Yes That is a foundation Band and a veteran band, they've been in the business for a number of years and I am honoured to be working with them, to be able to join the cast to be able to join the frontline with Blaxx and Ricardo Drue and two others that are going to be joining the team for the entire Carnival Season, as a result 2017 looks very promising as we have started our rehearsals I am in Trinidad now and I have been here for a week and a half now and rehearsals and studio time has just been non-stop since I got here.<Laughs>.
Garvey: <Laughs> So can you tell us what it's like working with such as prestigious band like Roy Cape and the All-stars?
Tizzy: The Musicians are very seasoned musicians so it makes for an easier transition for them during rehearsal time to learn the music, learn the performances and put everything together & so far it's been really good, they've welcomed me with open arms and it's been like spending time with my El a Kru family.
Garvey: High praise indeed!
Tizzy: It is! I mean when we first came to Trinidad in 1999 when we were performing Lethal Batty for a lot of the shows we were performing at we were on the same stage as them and so I knew some of the guys since way back then. So for a long time we were watching each other from a distance, watching each others talents and watching the way each other performed, commenting on each other and observing each others growth and now finally we're able to put everything together. Me with my talent and my growth and them with their growth and experience we're now able to put all of that together into one wonderful package!
Garvey: So in a nutshell what can we expect from you Trinidad Carnival? There's going to be a lot of people reading this who are going to be heading over to Trinidad to take part in the festival so what should they be looking out for?
Tizzy: Well so far I have one song and video out called Pumpin Iron so we're going to be Pumping Iron getting ready for the Gym so we can be ready for the barrage of entertainment and Fetes and shows that are going to be coming at you during the Carnival Season. And of course we re going to be getting Fit for the road as well. So when we say Pumpin Iron it means that when your in Trinidad and your moving from Fete-to-Fete and Place-to-Place you can say that your going On-the-Pump or your Pumping. So that's one meaning and the other Meaning is that we're Pumping in order to Sustain the energy for the Fetes and all of the travelling over the Carnival Season and to be fit on the road.
Garvey: I've seen you perform on the Stage before Tizzy and & you really don't stop!
Garvey: <Laughs> your performance is always entertaining and High energy <Laughs>.
Tizzy: We were in Belgium performing on two different nights on two different stages and there were about 5 stages at this event it was the Antillianese Festen. We were on two of the Stages and the first night we performed on the Joka stage and once we were done they called us back on and we sang two more songs and the crowd started chanting We want more we want more So we went back to our hotel thinking that was a good first night we had done well, needless to say the 2nd night we performed on the mainstage which was a bigger stage with a bigger audience the same thing happened, but this time it was more people and when they were pounding the floor and shouting at the stage for more it felt like an Earthquake <Laughs>
So the dancers on the stage spoke about me later saying She just kept Jumping, and jumping and she wouldn't stop! <Laughs> In my mind I was used to this! In Antigua we're used to the high energy performances for hours on-top-of Hours and what we did in Belgium was only 45 Minutes to an Hour and a Half so that felt like nothing, Our culture in Antigua, although we have Groovy Music, we are a power culture, we have a Power sound and we like Power songs so when they called us back for the Encore we gave them <Sings> "Rocket Launcher Boom! Let off now....Rocket Launcher BOOM!" It was just pure Excitement and pure Energy, the crowd was throwing water everywhere and they wanted more!
And very often I hear artists say when you go over to maybe China or some non-english speaking Country or out in the United States that's not really totally Soca-based or maybe only a small percentage of the crowd like Soca they tell you to Slow it down or Make it more appealing for the majority but I find that it doesn't matter because we gave them our slow songs, we gave them our fast songs.
We not only gave them our songs but even though the Performance was mainly our own Songs we gave them a mixed set that included some Hip Hop, Pop and other sounds. And we did this without having to change the way we perform. And they thoroughly enjoyed it and wanted more!
Garvey: Yeah, personally speaking I've never been a Fan of toning down Soca Music or mixing it up in order to cater to a crowd, performers should just go out there and do there thing, I've personally never seen a crowd who is unfamiliar with Soca, that has been put in front of good Soca Performance who didn't come away loving and enjoying the Music and the energy that's coming from the stage.
Tizzy: Yes! The entire atmosphere at Antilleanese Festen was like they were hungry for Soca, even in China they didn't speak a lot of English but you could see that they were just absorbing everything you were saying and everything you were doing so much so that everytime you moved and whatever action that you did if you wine or if you waved they followed you and they did it too!
Garvey: That's what I'm talking about, crowd participation <Laughs> I love it!......So recently we also put up a story about a deal you signed with VP Records?
Tizzy: VP Records yes, VP Records are based in New York, Edwin Howell originally contacted us and the contract is for three years and it's for digital distribution of Tizzy and El A Kru Music so you'll be able to find our music on Amazon, Spotify, Itunes, and wherever else they distribute, So like you said earlier, whereas before where only some DJ's would get our Music because they weren't sure how to find or get the music or which channels they should use to get it, with Digital distribution we're now able to go further so if your in China or Belgium or whichever part of the world your in and you want to hear EL A Kru Music, you'll be able to find it.
Garvey: Yes these days the Technology is changing so fast sometimes it's hard to keep up. But it's definitely got the opportunity to open some new doors and allow us to get more of the music out there.
Garvey: Ok and my last question for you is a personal one for your Fans who usually see you performing on stage or who listen to your music, what do you do in your spare time when your not working?
Tizzy: <Laughs> When am I Not working? I fall asleep with songs in my head and I wake up in the morning with songs in my head! <Laughs>.
Tizzy: Because there are always Songs that I need to learn to perform they may or may not be my own songs, because outside the Carnival scene when you have to perform at certain types of events, like Christmas for instance or maybe required to learn a popular R&B or Reggae songs to create more variety to appeal to the largest proportion of the crowd.
So Songs are always in my head, Songs will come on the Radio or I'll hear a Song somewhere and I think I like that!. You know sometimes while you'll be sitting in a Car and you hear a Song that sticks in your head it's a lot like that. Whether it's something I' m learning to Record, or something I'm learning to perform or something that I like, Songs are always in my head.
So when I'm not learning a song, rehearsing a song or preparing to perform, or travelling or touring When I get the chance I prefer to Chill and just be at home, because my bed doesn't get to see me very often <Laughs>.
Tizzy: <Laughs> So I like to stay home to rest and recuperate, when you keep as busy as I do, whenever you can get some down-time you take it and you make the best of it. Enjoy some Music, Enjoy your Family, BUT during that time, quite often I'm still planning on what I'm going to do and where I'm going to go next, I like to plan ahead so that I know what I'm doing so that things are in place for the future.
Garvey: Good answer, But your head must be consistently going with Music and preparation!
Tizzy: <Laughs> It's going with Music, it's going with Interviews because sometimes you have to keep in mind what questions you may be asked that may or may not throw you, you must know how to answer in that situation, you have to keep thinking about what is happening in the industry at the moment, so yes my head is always on the go figuring things out for the next step.
Garvey: Thanks Tizzy I've had an absolutely wonderful time interviewing you tonight, before we end was there anything you wanted to add or tell our visitors when they see this on our Site?
Tizzy: Yes! I can be reached at El A Kru Music on Youtube You can find my most recent Videos and any updates on Youtube, I can be reached on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram @TheRealTizzy and my Website is www.TherealTizzy.com All information updates, news pictures, everything can be found on there.
Oh and one last thing! for any aspiring Soca Artists I'd like to say that if you love what you do, you never have to work a day in your life, I'm fortunate enough to have a job that I love doing, I love bringing joy to people, making sure that your all right and that your having fun through my Music.
So I would say to anyone coming up whether Male or Female or in any walks of life for that matter, whatever you decide to do or take on for your lifes career, make sure it's something that you love doing and you''ll find it so much easier, and if it's not as easy, because some of us don't have it as easy as some others may do, we have to work at it extra hard. But make sure that you stay focused, make sure that you have the right people around you, make a plan, set goals and work towards those goals, so that no matter what detractors and obstacles come your way, you have a system for you to get by, get past or get through it and you have to be committed as well.
Garvey: That is a fantastic note to end on, thanks for the Interview Tizzy, and we'll be watching out for you at the 2017 Trinidad Carnival.
Tizzy: Your Welcome, and thank you!
My Interview with Tizzy was comfortable and Familiar, and revealed a lot about the effort and attention to detail that Tizzy puts into the preparation and delivery of her music, her entry into Music seemed to me to be very much a combination of opportunity, and a fearless desire to take those opportunities for all they're worth in order to allow her to pursue what she loves the most.
She spoke about her own opinion of the Soca Industry in a thoroughly honest and balanced way, highlighting that quite often the thing that we love the most in life is not perfect or easy and does not come at the so-called "Right time" when you are prepared for it, but the love that you have for it is often the self-sustaining reward that allows you to keep going through challenging times and reach the good times necessary for success to occur.
This interview was thoroughly interesting and enjoyable, taking the two-dimensional perception that we often have of a performer (Which is a necessary part of the marketing and promotion that a Performing Artist needs in order to keep climbing the rungs of success) and it stretched that flat image into a 3D image of Tizzy that provides a glimpse of the depth of emotion and intelligence that she applies to her Music and her Performances. But her closing statement is what stuck with me the most and for a brief moment made me consider changing the Interview title to "Tizzy..........An Unstoppable force". If you don't instantly know what I'm refering to I would suggest you stop reading now and Re-read her last sentence.
She says "If you love what you do you never have to work a day in your life"
This philosophy is invaluable for many aspiring artists and people who are considering taking an unconventional path in life in order to do what they love. But it also gives a rare and valuable insight into the motivation of our Soca Artists, regardless of what stage they are in their Career. As we often see the bright-lights, fame, frequent travelling, the fanfare and the apparent success and it is easy to fool ourselves into thinking that these rewards are the objective of the Soca Artist.
This interview has uttery convinced me that this is not the case. unlike many artists within mainstream music, Tizzy, and many other Soca Artists are doing this because they love it. And while this is laudable and comforting as it ensures that they will likely never quit, so that this creative aspect of Caribbean Culture (And a vital component of Carnivals across the planet) will continue. We must always remember that they are worth it and that they need our consistant support, regardless of which Island or country they are from, because before the first Fete ticket, Concert Ticket, CD or track is purchased, they have already earned your support and proven themselves worthy of it by having within them the rarest of gifts.........the Purity of love for what they do.
Check out one Tizzy's other recent hits "Drop Bombs" here: https://youtu.be/xeLvSGwl9aU
Check out Tizzy's Interview on the Trinidad & Tobago Radio Network here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30hHXEykjrA